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You know what really, really bugs me? Seeing people who say no to anything new without even giving it a try. Instead of pretty clothes, today I have some quotes for you:
” just like [insert store name here] the way it was…no mesh shit…other ppl see me like BOX…
“Mesh isn’t as pretty either and make the av look fat”
“some groups have started sending out warnings, don’t wear Mesh as you look nude”
“until many more people get the mesh viewer, i wish group gifts were not mesh”
Come on, people! Did you try it? Did you at least tried a viewer that supports mesh? I do understand that your computer may be too old to handle new viewers, I have issues with 3.2 myself, but saying no to something just cause you don’t wanna is kinda dumb, if you ask me. And rude too, cause some people worked hard for you to have a better gaming experience FREE OF CHARGE. Is mesh perfect? No, it’s not, but it can be improve and the best way to improve something is to receive feedback about it.
What feedback are YOU sending? Are you going to still use your cart with horses while everyone else gets a car? If that is your thing, ok, go on with it, but at least shut up!
Now let me tell you something: If other people were more open minded, you would not have the “ppl see me like box” issue. But for that, how about YOU start being open minded and persuade others to follow you?
Fact: you can’t control how others see you! You could have a great windlight and perfecly tinted feet. In my windlight, they look mismatched. You can have a high LOD, I may see you in squares and holes, because my viewer could be set on minimum graphics. People see you like box? Tell them to update viewer!
Plus: Mesh does NOT make you fat! Mesh comes in sizes. There’s even a standard sizing system to accommodate as many shapes as possible and some designers are ready to help you if you JUST ASK. System skirts can make you look fat. Some no-mod sculpties can do that too. What? Are you going to give up prims and only wear texture layers? No? I thought so, let’s move on!
And: you wish group gifts were not mesh? It’s a designer’s choice to send a group gift. OR NOT. Not your decision. Their content, their group, their rules. Unless you pay for that group gift – which you don’t, cause it’s a gift – say thank you and move on. You don’t like it? Don’t use it and shut up. Creators don’t HAVE to give group gifts. They do it because they WANT to. So you don’t have the right to ask for a standard version of the mesh gift too. Sorry, that’s beyond rude.
Again, mesh is not perfect. It has limitations. No mesh standard sizing will EVER fit my shape perfectly, until that deformer project is implemented. If it ever will be. But I like mesh. It comes with new opportunities, a chance for creators to try and design the things they could only imagine, but not achieve, due to SL limitations. And for that, I am willing to work with laggy viewers and not mind that much when my shape is a bit altered by a certain mesh product.
And if more people would join me and other mesh supporters, I bet that making mesh better would become a top priority for LL and maybe even new viewers would improve faster. And then there will be no more “box” or “fat” issues around mesh.
All you need is give it a try. And if you still don’t like it, then you’ll have the right to say it. And to suggest ways to improve it too!
Ohna said:
I hate that people think that it’s okay to knock something new without trying it. In my opinion, the people that choose to give mesh group gifts, they are being kind. They are not obligated to do so, and you are welcome to try it and without any demo marks or lines at that! A lot of mesh things have demos, and imo, people don’t really have an excuse. There’s so many viewers now that allow you to see and wear mesh, 1.23 viewers included as well.
I do not wear mesh all the time, but I love looking forward to trying new things that creators have released. Speaking of mesh, in my personal opinion, the mesh bare feet that I have tried and had to buy blends so amazingly with my skin, in comparison to sculpted feet. I always forget where the foot blending starts, and that kind of thing seems to be somewhat obvious in sculpted bare feet.
P.s. this might be my longest comment ever haha, and the beautiful feet are from SLink 🙂
moniqsalamander said:
Thank you, Ohna, your comment may be be long, but it’s totally true. No one is forced to buy something that does not fits them, but there’s no reason complaining about that! And I gotta try those prim feet too 🙂
fleety said:
I have tried almost any viewer that is mesh enabled and I cannot get my fps to run higher than 2 frames a second on any of them. I would Love to try mesh, but until there is a viewer that will run at a half decent frame rate I’ll have to pass. My computer is also fairly new, not the highest end model, but I’ve only had it since February, lol reminds me of how I felt last year when I was on my 3 year old Vaio and was stuck on the old 1.23 official viewer for the same reasons, and could only dream about alpha and tattoo layers.
Meanwhile I am collecting all my lovely mesh group gifties in folder called ‘mesh’ for the day when I can actually wear them. * sad face
moniqsalamander said:
I wish mesh viewers were faster too! Sometimes, on 3.2, I feel like I’m running shadows, though my graphic settings are medium. Still, I am sure that once LL guys figure out everything about mesh, our SL experience will be better. Meanwhile, I keep switching back and forth and only use mesh viewers when i need to. But I do love mesh and I am willing to bet on it for my future time in SL. I hope the coming viewers will work better on your PC too! From what I see, beta viewers are faster than final releases, for both Firestorm and LL 3.2. I’ll use those for a while 🙂
Tiki Bosatsu said:
For me, the essence of your writing, and it’s what i notice a lot in SL, is the fact that some people don’t know how to appreciate something that is given to them free. I realize that the items, provided by store-owners, do take a lot of work, effort and energy in creating them. Some awarness, realization and appreciation, and we’re all on the good way!
And the Mesh part; i hardly use it, not that i won’t, but…with Meshviewers i crash constantly, my laptop isn’t that suitable for it. When there will be a new computer i certainly will use it more..
Greetz,
Tiki
moniqsalamander said:
You”re right, designers spend a lot of time and energy for gifts, so people should appreciate that. There is a sense of entitlement that ruins a lot of the fun for designers. I hooe you can use mesh soon too! ❤
ZanTheMan said:
I’m glad to see im not the only one out there who feels this way. If your computer cant handle mesh, thats one thing. But most of the time it seems as if people simply refuse to try a newer viewer simply for the sake of refusing to. The complaint i hear most often is about the different UI. When you can get viewers with the same UI that do support mesh, this argument makes no sense. Those that spend time around me, (because i constantly give them a hard time about it) have giving in to just simply saying “i just don’t want to”. This is a great post and I’m glad to see more people getting the word out about mesh. Here is a great post to explain the technical reasons mesh is in general better than sculpties http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Mesh/Mesh-Vs-Sculptie/td-p/1000005
moniqsalamander said:
Thank you for the link, that’s a great read because it explains so much about mesh. The comments are not all very encouraging though. Let’s hope people will soon change their views on mesh and we can all have a better Second Life 🙂